crack_van | Love In A Faithless Country by Alexandria (PG-13)

Fandom: THE PROFESSIONALS
Pairing: Bodie/Doyle
Author on LJ: None
Author Website: Unknown
Why this must be read:

I don't really see Bodie as this insensitive, especially when it concerns Ray, yet the story still works for me. I suppose because people can hide things from themselves and do whatever it takes to steer clear of a situation that threatens. Bodie's reasons for being that way being explained also helps to make the situation more acceptable. And maybe you can run, but you can't hide as Bodie finds out for himself as Ray does everything he can, all with the best intentions, to get Bodie to see the light.

So even though Bodie is portrayed a bit more callous than I see him, and Ray is portrayed a bit more needy, this is still a story I can lose myself in time and time again, reveling in the angst of it all. And I do so love stories that make their friendship the glue that holds them together, being more inportant than the attraction or even the success of the partnership, being the reason for the attaction and the success of the partnership.

Love In A Faithless Country

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Ah, but that "if you don't kiss, you're not really queer" idea is actually found in real life. There was a story recently about a guy who had masqueraded as a woman, and permitted anal sex from a number of gang members. When the ruse was revealed, one of the guys said, "At least I didn't kiss him, so I ain't no faggot."

Well, first of all, I don't know whether the guys in question could be called "queer" when they thought they were having sex with a woman - although I've no idea how anyone can manage not noticing ones sex partner's gender, but okay.

But the question in this fic was not - as far as I've come reading - whether they were well and truly gay, but whether it was *lurrrve* or just fucking. Which is not really relevant for the gay-question, as you can have love without sex and sex without love being hetero or gay. And I so hate this female pre-occupation with sex as an expression of love. And that there shall not be any sex *without* love.

So, while more romantic souls than me may well enjoy this fic, I certainly couldn't.

Point taken. Actually, my problem with this story was Ray - he seems very out of character. But I enjoyed it nonetheless.

I'm totally frustrated at the moment, because since I've read 'Jigsaw Puzzle' I can't seem to find anything adequate to read. Nothing really compares. Grumble...

And where is it?

It's a zine available from Gryphon Press. It's also on the cd available through Proslib. But as far as I know, it's not on the net.

Thanks for the tip.

Want me to email it to you?

I'd be very pleased, yes.Thanks. Have you got it in a file?

Ich versuche mal, das Dokument in html zu übertragen, da ich einen Mac habe, der mit Claris Works arbeitet und Du sicher 'nen Windows PC mit Word. ;-)

I am afraid my German is very rusted!

Did you receive my eMails? Did it work?

Yes, I got it and, as much as I remember, replied with my very grateful thanks; I was surprised you found my email address, without I have to give it to you.

It worked pefectly, I just had to enlarge the font and I even was able to print it: that's a stream novel! I'll have enough reading for the Easteren holidays.
Still thanks.

Sorry, didn't receive your return mail, perhaps my mail program sorted it into spam because it didn't know you. Anyway I took *your* mail address from your LJ-bio. Have fun reading, hope you'll like it!

Yes, exactly. Even though neither man was portrayed exactly the way I see them, I still can enjoy the story.

Incidentally I've tried to read it just yesterday and although it seems to be quite well written I couldn't follow it through to the end because this concept of having to kiss to prove it's really love and not "only" sex is so typically female, in my opinion, that it borders on silly. If I want Harlequin I know where to buy it.

I've always felt that kissing, under certain circumstances, could be more intimate than the sex so I can see where this scenario makes sense. And it's not like it's the first time it's been used in a story. Actually, it's quite common.

Also I really, really can't stand bottom!Bodie.

Um, now this is what I see as a typical female resonse. From what I've been told, in a gay relationship bottom isn't the same as passive, so why would I not like one or the other of them on bottom? Why would it bother me? I'd figure if it felt good, they'd both want to give it a try.

I've always felt that kissing, under certain circumstances, could be more intimate than the sex so I can see where this scenario makes sense. And it's not like it's the first time it's been used in a story. Actually, it's quite common.

I didn't say that it makes no sense within the confines of that story, it's just that the eternal question "does he really lurrrve me or does he just want to fuck me?" is not one I'm interested in. And especially not if it's executed so unsubtly as in this fic.

Um, now this is what I see as a typical female resonse. From what I've been told, in a gay relationship bottom isn't the same as passive, so why would I not like one or the other of them on bottom? Why would it bother me? I'd figure if it felt good, they'd both want to give it a try.

And I would have nothing whatsoever against the guys switching every now and then - although in most established relationships people tend to develop favourite positions etc. - but the fic explicitly starts with a statement from Doyle's POV remarking that it was he who fucked Bodie and not vice versa. So, as far as I'm concerned, the author had written herself into a corner right from the start.

And I would have nothing whatsoever against the guys switching every now and then - although in most established relationships people tend to develop favourite positions etc. - but the fic explicitly starts with a statement from Doyle's POV remarking that it was he who fucked Bodie and not vice versa. So, as far as I'm concerned, the author had written herself into a corner right from the start.

Well, actually, she doesn't. The story starts, "After the first time Doyle fucked Bodie, he knew it wouldn't be the last." But she doesn't say only Doyle fucks Bodie. In fact, at one point Bodie makes the comment, "And maybe screw each other through the mattress?" and Doyle later recalls, "They sucked, they rubbed, they thrust against and into each other,....

But even if she hadn't, I don't understand how that would be writing herself into a corner any more than a story that has Bodie always on top?

Because, as I said, *I* don't care for bottom!Bodie and so the fic had lost most of its appeal for me right from the beginning. For people who like Bodie bottoming most of the time or who don't care one way or another it may work fine, but it doesn't do anything for *my* personal kink.

Oh, okay. I misinterpreted part of your previous post. Makes sense now. :-)

Love In A Faithless Country by Alexandria (PG-13)

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